New MODERATOR! Eugene(S4returns)- you vote!

[Carolina speed]

OK, heres your chance as a group to pick a new moderator. Eugene has shown an obvious interest in the club and has made quite a contribution to posts and meets. He is an older member who has, as said above, given a lot to the club, and also has plenty to give. I don't want to give him moderator powers if you all don't want him to be able to modify some of your posts. Please vote and if you are not in favor of him being a moderator just let us know who you would like to see the newest moderator.

[vwvr604]

shit i dont mind, i kno hes trustworthy and knows his shit, so why not?

[s4returns]

who is eugene? lol.

trustworthy? whoa, weighted epithet. appreesh.

[boostfed]

well, if you get the vote for mod, first rule- no using those big(or small with big meaning) words that we non-harvard graduates dont know the meaning of.

[vwvr604]

lol

[Silvia96]

I voted no. No offense intended to anyone, but he simply hasn't been with club for long enough. Many of us have been on the boards for almost 2 years, or longer, and I don't think he has had the experience needed with this club, regardless of his experience with cars. He has been to a lot of meets lately, and he is very knowledgeable about cars, but if that was all that was needed to become a moderator, many of us would have been made moderators a year ago. So i vote no, and we do already have enough moderators.

[boostfed]

keep comments coming. the above comment was a reason why he wasnt made a mod already. this is your club as a group, raise your voices. the poll will be up for about 2 weeks. by then, we should have enough input.

[pirate87]

I was the other no, for basically the same reason...though he is a great asset to the club as a whole, three mods for a forum that gets maybe three new threads a day is plenty

on the other hand if you want to make him mod of like the automotive media section, that'd be cool...60% of the threads there are his, haha

[S2Killa]

I agree with Erik and Tim also. He hasn't been with us very long and plus I think we already have enough mods. He does make alot of useful contributions though.

[boostfed]

i like the idea of the moderator in the media section. i think that fits a lot better.

[s4returns]

based on y'all's comments, which were very expected, i think y'all do not know why i have asked to be a moderator.

my desire to be a moderator depends on how the majority of y'all see this club and what you want it to become. most of y'all talk about, or at least frequently suggest that, you want this club to be a step up. in order to do that, this forum needs to reflect such intentions.

if you don't care about this, then my being a mod is inconsequential. and it probably result it constant conflict with the status quo.

if you want to increase the presence of this club and have "carolinaspeed" carry some weight in this area of NC and then later perhaps in this state and even region, then several things need to change. some of the language used is a bit over the top and personal attacks are a bit much as well.

now, after reading the above, many of y'all will once again think i am being pretentious. but know this: i have had much experience in organizing large car events and helping run several clubs. the bottom line is that if you want to truly be a club that folks recognize, then you have to show class. that translates to minimizing (and of course much more preferably eliminating) racial slurs, cussing, etc. on the forums. or at a bare minimum, you need to confine it to one section, such as the off-topic or a NSFW section.

many of y'all have stated the obvious: i have not been part of this club for a long time; i have not been on this forum for very long either. but there are mnay other things still separating me as a bit of an outsider that many of y'all have thought about but, for one reason or another, not posted about....

as boostfed has emphasized, this is y'all's forum and club. make of it what you want. if you want to maintain the current state of things, then i do NOT want to be a mod. if y'all want to establish legitimacy beyond having an online forum, some window stickers, and cookout meets, then i believe that i can meaningfully contribute in moving us in that direction. you are not gonna get that without having moderators who will regulate this forum in the way i described above.

there are many examples of forums that have just lost class. go look at nceuro. the forums are going to crap and now no one really respects nceuro. or go look at the B5 S4 forum of audiworld or almost any one on audizine. now, go look at m3forum. it is one of the best forums out there (and no, it has nothing to do with what i drive).

i have already made my prediction of the poll results. so far those of y'all who have posted have said what i anticipated. whether i become a mod or not is no big deal, but i felt it was necessary for me to post this.

[Silvia96]

While that was a pretty good pre-election speech, lol, I don't believe that the only way to accelerate our club's presence and raise our standards is to add yet another moderator. There's alot I want to say here, but don't know quite how to say it. Oh well, I'm trying. I guess it's just that we've come a long way since these boards got started, and we still have a long way to go. But it can't happen overnight, nor with simply the election of yet another moderator. It has to come from the members, not just the moderators editing their posts. Does anybody agree?

[mikesCB-7]

shoot, i think eugene knows his stuff,
but i do know that there are some guys that have helped "RAISE" this club to atleast where it is..... not to say that eugene doesnt seem to be a formidable fit to the roll, i just would like to see some other guys move up into the ranks first if anything. id vote for KYLE, that is if he isnt already one!

although someone spreading the good news of c-speed would be kinda nice......
besides i kinda like the cookout meets and then the occasional big meets at the track or NOPI, etc... (more of a warm coasy family feeling to it instead of so big that when new members step up nobody is heard)

i dunno im not going to vote yet, mostly cause i dont know a lot about eugene, and i dont know if other certain members that id rather vote for are already mod.s yet.....

[s4returns]

silvia96 said:

While that was a pretty good pre-election speech, lol, I don't believe that the only way to accelerate our club's presence and raise our standards is to add yet another moderator. There's alot I want to say here, but don't know quite how to say it. Oh well, I'm trying. I guess it's just that we've come a long way since these boards got started, and we still have a long way to go. But it can't happen overnight, nor with simply the election of yet another moderator. It has to come from the members, not just the people editing their posts. Does anybody agree?

1. pretty good pre-eection speech? even throwing out that joke shows you are missing the point. furthermore, fyi, i was asked by several of y'all to post that.
2. i never even implied it is the only way; read again and more carefully select your words
3. think over what you want to say, then enlighten us; threajacking appears to be warranted here.
4. this thread needs to be changed to what needs to be done, if anything, to improve this club
5. imo, pick anyone who will help with improving the editing of posts here. you are either kidding yourself or foolishly idealistic if you think members on this board will edit the content of their own posts to the level that is needed.

[Silvia96]

I believe you entirely missed the point of my post. And when it comes down to it, it wasn't threadjacking, it was directly related to the point this post was started for, if we believe another moderator is needed. And it's not about people editing their own posts, well not entirely. It's the point we already have 4 people that can do that. And with only about 15 people that post actively, that about 25% of truly active members having moderator capabilities. That's like 70 million people in the United States working in Congress. I know there are multiple ways to achieve this groups' goals, but I simply refuse to believe adding yet another moderator with such a small active population would be the right step. I'm all for you being the moderator of the Media Section, why not? There's my 2 cents, my words should not offend anyone who remembers the original reason for this thread. Why are there not more people responding?