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Post by s4returns on Aug 20, 2006 21:46:25 GMT -5
I believe you entirely missed the point of my post. And when it comes down to it, it wasn't threadjacking, it was directly related to the point this post was started for, if we believe another moderator is needed. And it's not about people editing their own posts, well not entirely. It's the point we already have 4 people that can do that. And with only about 15 people that post actively, that about 25% of truly active members having moderator capabilities. That's like 70 million people in the United States working in Congress. I know there are multiple ways to achieve this groups' goals, but I simply refuse to believe adding yet another moderator with such a small active population would be the right step. I'm all for you being the moderator of the Media Section, why not? There's my 2 cents, my words should not offend anyone who remembers the original reason for this thread. Why are there not more people responding? uh no. the point of your post was not missed at all. lol that you think that. i never said you threadjacked. not a big deal, but while your point is clear about the numbers, at least next time use facts and stats that are close to actual. boostfed and other mods, i request that this thread be deleted or at least locked. i end my interest in being a moderator unless silvia96 and others can think/view on another level. this is not a forum for me to have some control over beyond the *power* of becoming an established member.
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Post by Strokin250 on Aug 20, 2006 21:53:10 GMT -5
my opinion doesnt matter here but....i dont think ford truck world has but a handful of moderators.....and theres thousands of members....my opinion seems clear...
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Post by Silvia96 on Aug 20, 2006 22:02:53 GMT -5
I agree. This thread has lost its purpose. I have no problem at all with anyone on these boards, that much must be clear. And my numbers were within about + or - 1% of actual value, if it must be stated. Anyways, the mere fact that we only have 5 votes so far shows the general trend of active members in the club. I say let's just put a hold on adding more moderators right now, we have plenty. And if you believe I and other members aren't able to think on another level, rethink that one. Remember the title of this post. And also remember, you haven't been on these boards but for slightly over 4 months, where as some of us have been here since December 2004, when the boards began. No doubt you have extensive experience in other boards, and that you are quite knowledgeable and educated in these topics. Input was wanted, and although my particular input may not be the most desired, we have a shortage of other opinions being expressed, so for that, I apologize. And wow, this has gone the completely in the wrong direction. I don't think anybody was expecting this much feedback, or this kind of feedback for that matter. So on that subject, I'm gonna go make some Ovaltine and watch Dave Chappell. yay for cars
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Post by s4returns on Aug 20, 2006 23:21:56 GMT -5
I agree. This thread has lost its purpose. I have no problem at all with anyone on these boards, that much must be clear. And my numbers were within about + or - 1% of actual value, if it must be stated. Anyways, the mere fact that we only have 5 votes so far shows the general trend of active members in the club. I say let's just put a hold on adding more moderators right now, we have plenty. And if you believe I and other members aren't able to think on another level, rethink that one. Remember the title of this post. And also remember, you haven't been on these boards but for slightly over 4 months, where as some of us have been here since December 2004, when the boards began. No doubt you have extensive experience in other boards, and that you are quite knowledgeable and educated in these topics. Input was wanted, and although my particular input may not be the most desired, we have a shortage of other opinions being expressed, so for that, I apologize. And wow, this has gone the completely in the wrong direction. I don't think anybody was expecting this much feedback, or this kind of feedback for that matter. So on that subject, I'm gonna go make some Ovaltine and watch Dave Chappell. yay for cars check your sources again on numbers about US population. you are only reiterating points you have made. i made it clear that i got your point. but your point about who has been here longer is a moot one. intentions, level of maturity, and commitment are independent of how long an individual has been on the boards. furthermore, my knowlege of cars and how it compares to you or others are inconsequential as well. at the same time, your input is valued by me, along with other members. yet, one thing, among many other points, is that you are not really able to see beyond a limited window. and that is fine. i did not expect much more at your age. and that is not meant to be pretentious because i remember what it was like to be that many years younger. so your emphatic "and if you believe I and other members aren't able to think on another level, rethink that one," while a good suggestion to some, does not apply to me. depth will come with age, hopefully. take care.
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Post by 4g4d on Aug 21, 2006 0:04:53 GMT -5
blah blah blah. ok the best way i have seen modds on a site is have one for each section and like two for the general section. eugene post alot on here and actually posts stuff not just bull shit like me. right now the site is going through changes, alot of new kids learning and shit talking. a new admin, some new modds.... i vote yes for a section or two def. news bc hes up to date on that.
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Post by sohcman on Aug 21, 2006 1:17:28 GMT -5
i voted yes b/c i think he would do a dame good job and we only have 2 people that are doing the job. and second of all i do belive if we want the club to grow we needsome one who has more experience with club pages. also i dont think the time period you have been here has anythig to do with if you should or should not be a moderator i mean i was one of the first 8 members and i just became a moderator. i think it should have more to do with what you have to offer, and i think he has more to offer than 50% of the people in the club. he has been to almost every meet since he has joined and has put together many meets him self so i say yes make him a moderator.
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Post by boostfed on Aug 21, 2006 1:25:39 GMT -5
my 2 cents if i can think clearly.
Thresher- you are going to complain about commitment and longevity and such of the members here? i cannot think of the last time i saw you out at anything besides cookout that night about 3 weeks ago. You used to be much more commited, interested and commenting on the board. I'ma be real- you really havent posted in much of anything accept dramatic threads such as this and others where things were stirred up lately. If you would put the effort you used to into this group, I'd have my vote for you anyday. I am in no sort trying to attack you or play favoritism but i feel as if your comments were basicly the smae thing over and over and my above thoughts surfaced after each post you made. honestly, eugene is not one of my favorite members of this board but I feel as if he puts forth a lot of effort to an organization that really does not give anything back to him and i feel as if he has the leadership capabilities to move this group much farther.
He has organized multiple meets and been laying down a very reputable attendance. I think he has been to every meet that we've really had in the last 2 months+. Some of you who voted no have never really been around him. I feel as if some of you who basicly categorize like he said in an earlier post dont take the time and open up and talk. Most of you who voted no do not even know him. This is one reason why i keep pushing for this. I'm not going to close this poll as Eugene requested because i feel that there needs to be more input from members on why or why they didnt vote.
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Post by Carolina speed on Aug 21, 2006 1:31:57 GMT -5
94rolla, you voted, lets hear your reasoning. I think Eugene is a mature man, he can handle what words you may dish his way. If not, no worries. I just feel like we all want to hear what everyone has to say.
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Post by sohcman on Aug 21, 2006 1:32:20 GMT -5
also for those who have posted no that dont come to many meets if you try to come out sometime you might see that he would be a good moderator. so befor you post think about how many times you have come to meets in the last 5 months and then post.
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Post by s4returns on Aug 21, 2006 1:59:13 GMT -5
my 2 cents if i can think clearly. Thresher- you are going to complain about commitment and longevity and such of the members here? i cannot think of the last time i saw you out at anything besides cookout that night about 3 weeks ago. You used to be much more commited, interested and commenting on the board. I'ma be real- you really havent posted in much of anything accept dramatic threads such as this and others where things were stirred up lately. If you would put the effort you used to into this group, I'd have my vote for you anyday. I am in no sort trying to attack you or play favoritism but i feel as if your comments were basicly the smae thing over and over and my above thoughts surfaced after each post you made. honestly, eugene is not one of my favorite members of this board but I feel as if he puts forth a lot of effort to an organization that really does not give anything back to him and i feel as if he has the leadership capabilities to move this group much farther. He has organized multiple meets and been laying down a very reputable attendance. I think he has been to every meet that we've really had in the last 2 months+. Some of you who voted no have never really been around him. I feel as if some of you who basicly categorize like he said in an earlier post dont take the time and open up and talk. Most of you who voted no do not even know him. This is one reason why i keep pushing for this. I'm not going to close this poll as Eugene requested because i feel that there needs to be more input from members on why or why they didnt vote. not your favorite? or even one of your favorite? ouch! in all seriousness, indeed, all of carolinaspeed should know that you nor any of the heads of this club play favorites. if you think it is best to keep this poll/thread open, then i respect that. if the folks on this forum choose to have me as a mod, then i will do it as best i can. if i am not chosen as a mod and even if folks overwhelmingly dislike the idea and vote as such, i will still maintain the same respect for them as i would for any others. in short, my intentions are for the best of the members. if that is not clear, then either i have misrepresented myself or you do not know me and have prejudged much too hastily. if the majority of y'all think it is best to go in a particular direction, then i am cool with that. if it is something i do not agree with (this case's going either way would not fall in this category), then i have the choice whether to maintain an active role or not. so it is simple: voice your opinion but put some serious thought into it not for your sake or mine; rather, do it for the betterment of this organization. in addition, i have a request of those who think that my level of commitment is not enough: what can i do to show that i have such a level of commitment that warrants such consideration that this thread has brought to the forefront? with that said, even if i am able to show this, it may not be enough to warrant my becoming a moderator. and i cannot reiterate enough times that i am cool with that. finally, there is a rumor going around that i may be starting another club in this area having come from a large one back home....it is true that i am considering it. and if it is founded, it would not come into conflict with carolinaspeed. its focus would be on heavily modified (mostly euro) cars whose owners are serious about going to big name shows such as HIN and nopi to compete with the established clubs such as eurowerkz, europrojektz, and TWC. this may even serve to compliment carolinaspeed since some of y'all may be interested in that. the only thing is that it would require putting on the club's decals and those of sponsors we can attract. its focus would not be in direct conflict with carolinaspeed. furthermore, many of y'all know that i am part of nceuro. i am not really actively involved in that club. i post up often but i have no involvement in its leadership; i go to monthly meets when i can. and at this point, i am considering gradually dissociating myself from it because of recent events and activity on the forums (which i alluded to earlier in this thread). one final note: my upcoming year will be very hectic so time will be even more valuable. as a result, i may not come out to as many meets as i have been recently. but i will still maintain involvement in this club as i can. that is all for now. later.
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Post by pirate87 on Aug 21, 2006 10:48:38 GMT -5
personally, I think that it is great that eugene wants to help cspeed grow and develop into well recognized and respected local club. His ambition is very admirable, yet I think that this is completely unrelated to being a mod. Active participation, event organization, and just general leadership can come without being a forum moderator. I have absolutely no problem with eugene becoming a moderator, if that means another mod wants to forego their position. Its just a fact that this board does not need 5 mods, regardless of whom they may be. If the group decides more mods are necesary, then we should assing mods positions such as on nicoclub.com where each section has a diffferent mod who specializes in a certain area (btw if this is whats done, I call modding the suspension, rims, and brakes section).
I would love to see this club grow; I completely understand where eugene is coming from, but certain infrastructure changes need to be made to the clubs heirarchy to ensure that this growth is handled smoothly and professionally
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Post by piso on Aug 21, 2006 11:42:19 GMT -5
eugene knows alot about cars, and a heck of alot more than me so theres no way im gonna say he doesnt, but i think he should hang around a little longer before becoming a moderator. the idea of the media section does sound like a good idea though.
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Post by mikesCB-7 on Aug 21, 2006 12:14:50 GMT -5
ok i choose yes as the fifth person, 1. cause eugene is bout as qaulified as anybody in here. and participates more than half the people on the boards.... plus if we say no now then were gonna come back to the same question in a couple of months, but if we go ahead and say yes then you could turn that to a trial basis or somthing.... i dunno i think the same couple of people keep on commenting in here, we need some fresh votes! 2. im scared sombody is bout to get in serious brawl up in here....
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Post by mazdax3speed on Aug 21, 2006 14:18:20 GMT -5
i admit to not voting, mostly because i have been here even less than eugene and am one of the newest members...i know im entittled to my opinion, but i dont really think i know enough about the club/forum to make a good decision. i did read all the post above mine tho, and can relate with alot of opinions, mostly i would agree with people saying it would mean too many mods. however it would only be 4 not 5?....as i understand it, i also respect eugene's drive to make the club into somthing bigger and well known....i mean we dont wanna be "proform" or "american dreamz"....and theres also the fact that i dont really see what the big deal is to be honest....i mean all that would happen is that he could edit post? that is important, but its not like hes gonna become a dictator and start controlling every aspect of the boards
so yep...i didnt vote...and i see both sides...dont you hate it when people do that?
if i were to vote i think i would go with diff. mod. for each section idea, although many sectons dont get near as much attention as others...so i dont know how fairly that would work
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Post by 4g4d on Aug 21, 2006 14:23:47 GMT -5
i vote every becomes a modd..... i think the guys that have been here the longest all agree that he should be a modd. not to say the young guys dont count but the older guys hold more say. really from the original crew its just kyle,david,me,tyler ,strokin 250 and erics brother(dont know him). s4returns is nice to every one and likes to hear out people. i dont agree with his bmw blaber or expensive taste in parts but he likes the club,and would commit more time to it than anyone else out side the the original guys.we need some older guys that also know older guys so that maybe the club could grow past a bunch of high school kids. maybe get some dyno time at local shops get some banners out there. not just have cook out fights and trash talking to the other obvious crew.
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