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Post by boostfed on Apr 29, 2006 19:57:10 GMT -5
umm.. i like rwd... and boost...
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Post by t2ae on May 8, 2006 15:58:24 GMT -5
well i will totally agree with what your sayin matt but.........most of us common people dont have the money to spend on the b16's and from what i've seen the little zc is beating the times of both you and sams b16's. even though both of you got lsd it hasnt seem to make a big difference in traction for the fwd's.dont get me wrong though im not sayin that the b16's dont have more potential..but its $$$$$$$$$ and..........yeah farlows right...rwd and boost
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Post by 4g4d on May 9, 2006 1:12:47 GMT -5
what was his best?10.2 what was the b16 w tyler best 10.0 in mine while he blew it up! i promise both of are cars on slicks mine will run alot faster.dont argue your point hell even sam got a 10.0 in his with a broken shifter.yeah lsd doesnt make a difference when you have less than 135hp.(d16)
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Post by t2ae on May 9, 2006 11:13:03 GMT -5
yeah but look at the difference in performance parts????and$$$$$$. If kyle had the money in your motor alone into his motor i doubt the b16s would be on top at all. what im sayin matt is that the b16s arent all they are made up to be. shit for the money it better run 9's with mild upgrades. it doesnt compare when you look at the money difference. its sad that you can spend $800 on a zc then spend $1800-2500 on a b16 and only have not even a second faster? ???but yeah if you have the money to spend on that "POTENTIAL" of the b16 all for you. otherwise dont. you know im not a honda expert and dont know near as much as you but im just throwing out my view and point
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Post by 4g4d on May 9, 2006 19:55:51 GMT -5
i spent 800 hundred on my motor thats my point....motor for motor you cant get away from the the fact i got a motor for the same amount he did actually cheaper if you include the bolt ons i got to. look 500 tranny,600 motor,150 ecu,250 axels,400 aftermarket stuff, shift linkage/mounts better than stock d series 200.so how much was my motor? about 600 done deal cant argue with the point that has been made.you can pick up any b16 or b18 for around 750-900 that has 30-40hp more thats the bottom line dont talk about how great a deal it is for a motor that makes less hp than a stock d16z6 that will run you around half meaning 400 for a complete motor.great deal that zc great 800. z6 more power 400
not bashing kyle like the motor but arguing prices of motors with me who told him where to get his motor is dumb.
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Post by 4g4d on May 9, 2006 20:02:29 GMT -5
lets talk about best for the money d16z6 turbo $900 in a set up that will run alot faster than the 800 d16 since its about the package deal and not a motor at all .$900 225whp $800 98whp not 198 yeah 98-105whp does that make sense to you im the guy with the deals remember, you can argue it with sam spent 3500 on a set up that is slower than mine, yes
this is on hmotors web site: 30021 - B16A 88-91 (SiR I) Long Block 160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (JDM) my stupid expensive $ 599.00 Plus shipping and handling. motor
30020 - ZC 88-92 (Civic) DOHC Long Block 129Hp 106Trq 9.6 Compression(JDM) his great cheap one $ 525.00 Plus shipping and handling
notice the price difference $75 for 31hp and a stronger block.yep that d is a great deal.and so much faster.this thread is closed to arguement
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Post by t2ae on May 10, 2006 17:04:25 GMT -5
yes matt this will be closed.......... kyle-zc complete motor swap RUNNING IN CAR:$800.."just the whole motor in car running(not long block crap)" matt-b16 complete motor swap RUNNING IN CAR:$2100. (ps.hmotors b16 swap package 2500) *notice this does not include price of cars* KYLE---------10.1 in 1/8th MATT---------10.0 in 1/8th ***argument closed***
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Post by 4g4d on May 10, 2006 20:27:03 GMT -5
on slicks i assure you that the time difference would be a bit more.we were talking about motors.
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Post by Below85 on May 11, 2006 9:51:02 GMT -5
i can say the b16 is a fuckin beast when it gets traction.....when matt ran on in the 1/8 he ran on the shit tires.......seriosly..he would run faster on fruit loops. ..not sayin anything bad about the ZC but he could of gotton it for a little bit cheaper. but he got it for a reliablablity.. Matts setup has a whole lot less miles on it as far as tranny, axles motor mounts. I went kyles route the first motor i put in too i understand where he is comin from...
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Post by t2ae on May 11, 2006 10:49:23 GMT -5
its not like any front wheel drives will get the traction their looking for unless using slicks.i know Matt's not getting traction but neither is kyle. Matt will probably run faster with total traction but not $1300 difference worth off time in the 1/8th. yeah we are talking bout motors Matt but long blocks aren't doing crap just by looking at them. thats like comparing two pics of motors....whats the point of arguing which motor is faster of more power just sitting and not running in a car, which goes onto the whole money difference
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Post by sohcman on May 11, 2006 15:51:56 GMT -5
all my bro is tryin to say is if i had as much money as matt had in his car right now in my car i would be faster, and i would agree with that. he is not sayin that the zc is a better plat form he is just sayin i have like $1900 in my car and matt has like $4500 in his car and if i put another $2600 in my car to equal the total amount of money matt has in his car i would be faster, think about it there is alot of shit u can do with $2600 to a motor. there is that point though where the zc can not make any more power and the b16 can so yes the b16 is a better motor in the long run. but for the best bang for the buck i would have to go with the zc but , for the better motor i would say b16 just like anyone would. and ya'll do have to rember my car is running a 10.103 still spinning 2nd and i know that car will run a 9.99 with good traction and matts car with good traction should run 9.3-9.5 and for the $ difference that is not bad and that is all colby is sayin. but i am still most impressed with tylers motor and if that would fit my car that is the best motor for the price to me.
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Post by 4g4d on May 11, 2006 22:18:52 GMT -5
you have at least 2000 in the car with the money you owe me.i dont have 4500 in the car.2500 in the new drive train with the clutch,650 in the car and 450 in the wheels/nitrous so ive got 3600 in the car with nos on it should run 9.0 which is a second faster so for1600 i got a second faster car which is alot. but i just bought eagle h beam rods and a ls/vtec kit today so ill have another 1000 in the car by the time ls/vtec is finished but it will run low 8's high 7's the new setup im going to do. 11.2 comp. on a 100 shot. oh and the coupe with the car and turbo setup i have 2700 in it so for 700 more could push over 200 to the wheels for your info.(colby) but if i would have thought the zc did what itdoes and performs that well i would have got a zc and boosted it bc that would out run both of my cars for alot less money. i like kyles motor i just didnt like the way colby said what he did and i like to argue and have nothing else to do. i still like rx-7 more.
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Post by sohcman on May 12, 2006 18:17:19 GMT -5
so matt u are saying that if i put $1600 more into my car to equal the total cost of what u have in your car that i would not be faster then u? B/C i think that with $1600 i would run faster than 9.00. but thats just me. and u know i like to argue to but thats why we love each other.
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Post by 4g4d on May 14, 2006 0:06:17 GMT -5
no im saying that if you put 16oo in your car it would look as good as mine and that if you put that much in it that you would have a b16 swap in it bc the zc would die and your tranny would die and your axles would die and your hole car would die.kyle you owned both cars which one is all around nicer?im saying if i where looking to buy a car and for 1600 more i could by a b16 swaped very modified crx or a dropped 89 si with a 15hp more motor that i would go for the crx. i agree that if we both started with 400 to spend and and i went b16 swap and you went d16 that your car would be faster maybe,but it wouldnt last as long and would have alot more down time being fully built.
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Post by 4g4d on May 18, 2006 23:53:25 GMT -5
ok kyle wins he has less in his car than i have in my bed room of parts you guys win, ill never break into the 9's and the crx is going to have like 6k in it soon so i suck and should have bought a zc then i wouldnt be broke.
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